Cassandra Barry, whom you may remember as the throughly charming wife of Joel Stein from a past episode, sits down with Lynette & Stefanie for the 2nd half of their extended interview. After updating the woefully ignorant producer Gary on Montessori educations the conversation turns to the dynamics of cheating within relationships and Lynette updates everyone on a recent trip she took.
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Show Credits
Producer: Gary Smith

Just finished listening to part 2 Cassandra Barry-
Great podcast– pleaseeeeee do the shirts for Crying Out Loud.
I would so buy one For Crying out Loud–
Have a great weekend!
Kelly
CONCERN ABOUT KID”S PROGRESS
The solution is simple for Kindergarten & First Grade :
READ to your child for 15 minutes each night at bedtime from an age appropriate book.
THAT’s it.
NO EXCUSES.
Your child will then enjoy reading and then then school will be enjoyable.
SUBJECT FLIRTING:
In modern life – Flirting can take such a fast track to Secretly communicating to Secret rendezvous to Secret Affairs to Public Divorce.
As a man – when married women bring up the topic of dating, drinking, socializing to someone not their husband then it gives an air of someone “testing the waters”. Be careful as the slippery slope analogy that Adam Carolla uses might apply.
Be careful and instead start “Stalking” your husbands and “mix -it up” in the public flirting department.
EXAMPLE of Public Flirting/fantasy : Once my fiance (we share a child) and I met at an outdoor bar/restaurant and acted as if we were having a secret affair. We let the bar patrons overhear our “Fantasy talk” – Their ears all perked up and the energy generated was electric. Needless to say – the sex that night was great. (also our 5yr. old stayed at Grandma’s for the night).
EXAMPLE for single sex : Have the kid’s stay overnight at a relatives. Go to a resort hotel for the night or have a “clothing optional” evening at your home with some skinny dipping in the pool.
This is what will make for an interesting life with your life partner.
Good show everyone.
Take careful.
I think the discussion on school (pre or otherwise) was excellent and important. I think you guys touched on some important points, parents should take their own personal assessment of the program in conjunction with their knowledge and assessment of their child to pick the program which works for their child. Later on the biggest point parents will find is it is mostly about the teacher your child gets and while clearly there are bad teachers out there, what you find if you have more than one child is that a lot of times, a teacher that is terrible for one child, will be the inspirational teacher of a lifetime for another. I had one daughter who raged against a conformist kindergarten and did fantastic when moved to a chaotic K room that I found overwhelming. My younger daughter needed calm order first and always. I would like to throw out a caution about Charter schools. Charter schools (in CA) are “managed” by Sacramento, which mean as a parent if you are unhappy with whatever arbitrary rules the management of the school sets, you have no real appeal process. Charter boards have absolute authority, so you as parents REALLY need to dig deep – don’t just read what the charter schools says about itself… try to find parents who will talk about their experience. Fortunately there are lots of schools to choose from. I have both LAUSD experience and Charter experience and both have their strong points and their strong failures. Ultimately as trite as it sounds, your child will get a good education anywhere if that is what you want as a parent are willing to stay connected to the process.
I was relieved to hear Stephanie say that when her and her husband get into a fight she imagines the entire scenario of her finding a new apartment and what will happen next. Every fight I picture how we are going to divide up the bank accounts, where I’m going to live. I imagine these scenerios every time we are fighting. The next day everything is always back to normal and fine. I’m glad I’m not the only one:) Love the Show! thank you for your constant honesty!
Me too! Fight = flight. My mom taught me that just one argument results in garbage sacks of your beloveds belongings on the front lawn. And other classy adult relationship rules like that. Over the fourteen years I’ve been with my husband it has been all I can do to not keep a bag packed in the trunk of my car. One year we argued as I took down the Christmas tree and I sorted the ornaments for easy distribution. It’s wildly difficult to break that cycle.
So thank you Stephanie for reminding me to not use the d word.
Regarding finding a Montessori: There is a lot of garbage out there calling itself Montessori and charging a premium for that. One way to weed out the garbage is to make sure the teacher in your child’s classroom has a certificate from AMI (Association Montessori Internationale) or AMS (American Montessori Society). The trainings approved by these organizations is of good quality; anything else is highly dubious. The certificate is no guarantee that the teacher is good, but it is a start. There are good schools without AMI/AMS recognition and lousy schools that do, so ALWAYS GO OBSERVE! Corporate “Montessori” schools, by the way, are always, always, always lousy.
Really enjoyed this podcast. Cassandra is a great guest.
Love you ladies! As a mom of three with one in college, one in high school, and one in junior high, your chats about preschool, etc. totally take me back! But I want to tell you- relax! In hindsight, here’s what I know:
Stephanie, you’re absolutely right on about the good developmental program that just feels right. Just a few hours a day, reading at home and good time with mom and dad, and you’re good to go.
Lynette, reading is absolutely developmental. Mine were early readers but that’s just how they were wired. DON’T think for a minute Sonny would be a better reader if he went to the Montessori. Make it all available and let them flourish in their strengths. I’m on my second in High School and I’m here to tell you that holds true all the way through their school years.
You will not believe the pressure on these kids once they get to high school, so learn now to keep a balance in their academic lives. My daughter’s history teach her just told us at back to school night we were doing the most important thing we can do for our kids by being interested and involved in their education.
You are both fabulous moms. Enjoy!
Darcy
I really like your comment. I have a 1 year old and I’m glad to hear we don’t have to make a big deal about where they go as long as we’re involved and support them as they develop on their own.
Love following the show as your kids grow up! It’s so interesting to hear the new developments with school and activities. It will be fun to hear your opinions on scheduling when your kids get a little older….how to not go insane when you’re dealing with school, homework, and juggling afterschool & weekend sports and activities for multiple kids! I’m confused about why people are always complaining that kids “spend too much time watching tv and playing videogames” when it seems like there’s no time LEFT in a day after bouncing from one activity to the next. What are your thoughts?
To think I almost missed this gem of a podcast!**
Stephanie- God bless you for being so straight up and answering Cassandra’s questions.
Cassandra- Come back more often, you add a great vibe, I never knew was missing.
Gary- Like you stood up for fan favorite, Fitzdog.
Lynette- As Bruce said after our rain show, “Chicago ! You-are-hardcore.”
Loved the show! I really enjoyed Cassandra. And I would totally buy a For Crying Out Loud shirt (make them cute)!